Able to Make Change at Any Age

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Today it’s time for a dose of inspiration because we’re talking to a group of young activists who have joined the fight for racial justice and equity. The ABLE initiative was started by a group of high school students. It uses art merchandise to donate to five organizations aiding the Black Lives Matter movement, encouraging youth volunteers to become active changemakers in their communities. ODEIB talked to ABLE leaders about how they launched ABLE and overcame pushback even from within their own families. It was an object lesson in making the kind of change you want to see in the world. We are so proud of these DEIB leaders and they gave us a touch of much-needed faith in the power of community, truth-telling and empathy in change work. We all have a thing or two to learn or re-learn from the young leaders of ABLE. 

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Alternative Paths to Belonging

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In this episode of Building Belonging we talk to a few folks who have found their belonging by exploring alternative career paths outside the law. Margaret Segreti and Sam Choi join us from Bloomberg to discuss their personal journey from being practicing lawyers to discovering unanticipated roles in data analysis. Margaret and Sam emphasize the importance of being open to taking systematic, informed risks and embracing non-traditional roles when marketing yourself. They also share their expertise on developing artificial intelligence tools in a way that mitigates bias and incorporates DEI principles from step one. 

Tune in to learn more about: 

  • The challenges and rewards of shifting gears mid-career 
  • How to approach marketing yourself when you are looking to make a change 
  • Navigating bias in the design and build of artificial intelligence tools 
  • The day-to-day work life of a JD that is not practicing law 

Access a transcript of this episode here: https://bit.ly/3tO7qhS

 

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Mary Ellen – Little Justice Leaders

Angie – One Night in Miami

Tanya – Black Girls Play: The Story of Handgames

 

 

Is the Legal Profession Making Good on Its Mental Health Promises?

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Building Belonging is joined by Eileen Travis, Executive Director of the City Bar Lawyer Assistance Program. Eileen has thirty years’ experience in mental-health services and has been part of the spearhead of the legal profession’s growing awareness of and respect for mental health and well-being. Eileen has great insight to share about the history of how the legal profession has dealt with mental health and well-being issues. She explained how shifting attitudes haven’t always led to substantial shifts in a culture that drives lawyers to burnout. But Eileen also shared her experience of progress being made by a new Gen Z workforce that is driving some of the well-being culture changes that the profession needs. 

Tune in to hear more about: 

  • How the landscape of mental health in the legal profession was dramatically changed by a groundbreaking ABA report (linked below) 
  • How the legal profession has succeeded in producing more mental-health resources without always giving lawyers meaningful opportunities to utilize those resources 
  • How LAP has worked to change the character and fitness process to be less stigmatizing and more compassionate 
  • The history of Lawyers Assistance Programs in New York and around the world, and how they built a foundation for wellness programs in the legal profession today 

The Path to Lawyer Well-Being: Practical Recommendations for Positive Change (aka the Krill Report): https://bityl.co/MRc6  

 

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Mary Ellen – Tips for Consuming Social Media with Intention 

Tanya – “The Egg,” (https://ytube.io/3mxh) “Dissatisfaction” (https://ytube.io/3mxg) and “Loneliness” (https://ytube.io/3mxi) by Kurz gesagt 

Angie – When They See Us (https://bityl.co/MRJq 

 

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The Next Generation of DEIB 

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The ODEIB crew debriefs their 2023 summer interns: Eliana Cortez, Deynna Rey Tovar, Valentina Raghib Charry and Arantxa Galvan. It’s a bit of a love fest because these women really became part of the ODEIB family in their time with us. We are so proud of the work that they accomplished and of the passion that they display. Eliana, Deynna, Valentina and Arantxa are a vision of the future of DEIB that we are very excited to usher into the legal profession. They’re also a case study for successful internships. So hit that play button and hear what they have to say! 

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Tanya – White Women, by Regina Jackson and Saira Rao 

Angie – Deconstructing Karen 

Mary Ellen – Recognizing the Inherent Bias Within the Legal Profession and Identifying Your Relationship with It (CLE Program Coming Soon) 

 

The Legal Accountability Project

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Aliza Shatzman is President and Founder of the Legal Accountability Project, a nonprofit aimed at extending support and resources to law clerks to ensure that they have a positive clerkship experience. Aliza talks about the mistreatment that she experienced as a law clerk. Her experience led her to discover the shocking lack of labor protections for clerks and the enormous power disparity between clerks and judges. Aliza was ultimately inspired to take on the deeply entrenched status quo in the clerking system. Tune in to hear about:

  • The power dynamic that exists today which gives judges the power to mistreat clerks and potentially derail their clerks’ careers
  • How law schools and their clerkship offices have been complicit in protecting bad actors and withholding information about bad judges from clerkship applicants
  • How Aliza has improved accountability for judges and raised awareness in the community of law clerks
  • What law clerks experiencing mistreatment can do to get help
  • What changes need to be made to improve working conditions for clerks
  • The centralized clerkship database created by the Legal Accountability Project that democratizes information about judges and clerkships

You can read Aliza’s testimony to the House Committee on the Judiciary here: https://bityl.co/K6EO

DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

Mary Ellen – Radical Queer Witches

Angie – Women Talking

Tanya – Wednesday: a recommendation to watch and to investigate bias: (https://bityl.co/K6Ei)

 

Recession-Proofing Commitments to DEIB

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Ankura Consulting Group is a management consulting firm with over two thousand employees advising corporations in various industries and sectors e.g. cybersecurity, construction, litigation and human resources. Shawn Miles’ and Patricia Rodriguez’s social-impact team helps companies ask themselves difficult questions about their own environments and values so that they can make sure that their people feel accepted, welcome and able to show up as themselves.

Patricia and Shawn speak about being intentional with Belonging, about building strategies and spaces for people to be honest and sometimes uncomfortable. They helped us understand the ways in which building psychological safety to get things wrong can be tantamount to building psychological safety to really try and get things right.

The Building Belonging crew carries this idea into a discussion about how to persevere in the face of an “anti-woke” movement that seeks to co-opt and undermine DEIB ideals. Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen talk with Shawn and Patricia about how to be prepared for “anti-woke” arguments that are made in bad faith and how to keep the DEIB conversation going on a productive track. They also delve into the implications of these strategies in the political atmosphere of anti-woke, anti-DEIB regulations.

The data shows that organizations that succeed in DEIB also outperform their competitors financially. Patricia and Shawn talk about how improving DEIB improves organizational decision-making and makes companies more responsive to increasingly-diverse customer bases. Nevertheless, when recession happens and businesses need to make cuts, DEIB initiatives are often first on the block. Shawn and Patricia shared some of the talking points and strategies that they have used to remind companies that DEIB is good for long-term, sustainable growth as well as for retention of the top talent.

DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens 

Angie – Milk
Mary Ellen – 
So You Want to Talk about Race?
Tanya – 
Overruling Grutter: What Does Ending Affirmative Action Mean for Voluntary DEI Workplace; Register here for the July 13 event in this series: What Does the Supreme Court’s Opinion on Affirmative Action Mean for Diversity Initiatives & the Pipeline to Law Firms & Financial Institutions?

 

Using Privilege for Progress

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Justice Rolando Acosta shares his story of growing up in the Dominican Republic and coming to New York at 14, finding opportunities by excelling academically and on the baseball field, and choosing the law and going to work at Legal Aid as a way of paying back the help that had been given to his family.

Justice Acosta and his daughter Zila Acosta-Grimes compare notes on their upbringing and their privileges, and how they have learned to use privilege as power.

Justice Acosta remembers for us his time building the Dominican community in Washington Heights and Inwood by building up social service infrastructure like Alianza Dominicana and Community Association of Progressive Dominicans alongside other community leaders like Adriano Espaillat and Dr. Raphael Lantigua.

Justice Acosta also shares insights about the challenges of making change happen at the institutional level, delving into his own efforts to modernize the Appellate Division First Department while he was Presiding Justice.

Justice Acosta talked with the ODEIB team about the importance of representation not just in the workplace and the boardroom, but in institutions of justice and as a building block of the rule of law.

DEIB for the People – a Collection of DEIB Content for Your Screens

Mary Ellen#DoTheWork from writer/activist Rachel Cargle
Tanya: Ru Paul’s Drag Race
Angie: Crip Camp – Streaming

 

Pyschological Safety, Emotional Agility and Energy Management for Lawyers

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Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen speak with Julie Bosi and Valery Federici of Level Up Legal. 

They talk about coaching in the legal industry and the way that the skills of the law can run counter to the skills of well-being, and how the work of building emotional well-being dovetails with the work of DEIB.

Tune in to hear about:

  • How coaching works in the context of the legal profession
  • How coaching is tailored to each individual lawyer
  • Combating negativity bias
  • Building psychological safety to break down systems of oppression

 

The Diversity Gap in the Legal Pipeline

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Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen speak with Julie Bosi and Valery Federici of Level Up Legal. 

They talk about coaching in the legal industry and the way that the skills of the law can run counter to the skills of well-being, and how the work of building emotional well-being dovetails with the work of DEIB.

Tune in to hear about:

  • How coaching works in the context of the legal profession
  • How coaching is tailored to each individual lawyer
  • Combating negativity bias
  • Building psychological safety to break down systems of oppression

Everything, Everywhere But Not All At Once

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Tanya Martinez-Gallinucci, Executive Director of the Office for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging; Angie Avila, ODEIB Manager of Development and Communications; and Mary Ellen La Rosa, ODEIB Diversity & Inclusion Coordinator; speak with Lissette Duran, Senior ESG Associate at Paul Weiss.

Lissette shares her experience of being lifted up in the journey of her career; how she has claimed a place in new spaces even while embracing her identity; and how she has safeguarded her sense of identity in the spaces that she chooses.

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Empowering Communities with Affinity Groups

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Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen speak with Zila Acosta Grimes, Associate at Debevoise & Plimpton.

Zila’s roots in New York’s Latinx community and legal community run deep. She shares her own immersive upbringing in those communities, and shares her playbook for building affinity groups that make inclusive and powerful spaces for communities not traditionally represented in the law.

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A DEI Practitioner’s Perspective

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Tanya, Angie and Mary Ellen speak with Yusuf Zakir, Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer at Davis Wright Tremaine.

Yusuf shares his own journey into the DEIB space, the ways in which he invites colleagues into that space, and the way in which he has developed his firm’s approach to DEIB.

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Professionalism as a Racial Construct

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Tanya Martinez-Gallinucci, ODEIB Executive Director, Angie Avila, ODEIB Manager of Development and Communications, and Mary Ellen La Rosa, ODEIB Diversity & Inclusion Coordinator speak with Leah Goodridge about her article Professionalism as a Racial Construct and discuss how “professionalism” is used to subjugate marginalized groups.

Read Leah’s Article “Professionalism as a Racial Construct”: bit.ly/3DtLeMh

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Join the City Bar (admission fee waived) using this membership form: bit.ly/3qEJqbV

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Sign up for our newsletter to keep up on all ODEIB programs, events, and news: bit.ly/3qE5raK

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